Episode 228
E 228: Spiritual Healing After Childhood Trauma: Guest Cheryl Stelte
In this powerful episode of Adult Child of Dysfunction, Tammy Vincent sits down with Cheryl Stelte — spiritual coach, healer, and bestselling author — for a deeply moving conversation about transformation, empowerment, and spiritual growth.
Cheryl shares her personal story of being abandoned in the hospital as a newborn and how this early trauma shaped her lifelong quest for healing, self-understanding, and divine connection. Through her 30+ years of experience in spiritual development and energy work, Cheryl has helped countless women clear subconscious blocks, access inner clarity, and step fully into their authentic power.
As the Founder of the Star of Divine Light Institute and Azarias Energy Healing, Cheryl brings a wealth of wisdom to this episode — blending compassion, science, and spirituality to illuminate the path toward deep healing and soul alignment.
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This heartfelt conversation reminds us that even the deepest wounds can become the source of our greatest light.
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Transcript
Well, hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of Adult Child of Dysfunction.
Speaker A:Today we have with us Cheryl Stelt.
Speaker A:She's a spiritual coach, healer, and best selling author.
Speaker A:She helps mature women clear subconscious blocks, gain inner clarity and step into authentic power.
Speaker A:She is the founder of the star of Divine Light Institute and Azarius Energy Healing.
Speaker A:She brings over 30 years experience guiding women into deep healing purpose and lasting transformation.
Speaker A:Oh, that sounds good, doesn't it, Cheryl?
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, it is good.
Speaker A:It is good.
Speaker A:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker A:Like that sounds good.
Speaker A:So welcome.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:I'm thrilled to be here with you, Tammy.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know we had just a brief conversation, but I felt like I was like, oh, we're like kindred spirits.
Speaker A:Like we have so much of the same energy going on and I absolutely adore you.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:And like this.
Speaker A:Yes, love this.
Speaker A:But you asked me to ask a question and I love this because I've never really looked at the difference between what is happening now in healing and humans versus 50 or 100 years ago.
Speaker A:Like, why is it different?
Speaker B:Oh gosh, it's.
Speaker B:It's so different.
Speaker B:You know, you talk about dysfunction.
Speaker B:A hundred years ago, was the word dysfunction even used?
Speaker B:You know, what was, what was healing back then?
Speaker B:And so people didn't really recognize, I don't think that they even had problems.
Speaker B:You look at how we functioned and I look at today, it seems, there seems to be an epidemic out there of narcissists, especially in men.
Speaker B:You, you hop on YouTube.
Speaker B:Enter, enter narcissist.
Speaker B:My gosh, you are.
Speaker B:Even 50 years ago, 40 years ago, that word wasn't used.
Speaker B:It didn't happen.
Speaker B:So a hundred years ago, no, we were conditioned.
Speaker B:We were all conditioned that the man came first.
Speaker B:This is, it's tradition.
Speaker B:It's how things were for hundreds of years, right.
Speaker B:And so in order to have any kind of healing on any level, we have to recognize there's a problem.
Speaker B:So years ago, it only used to be in the physical.
Speaker B:And how do you deal with that?
Speaker B:And so we look at today, we can say, oh, I grew up in a dysfunctional home.
Speaker B:What does that mean?
Speaker B:Well, I look at it from the point of a whole lot of conditioning.
Speaker B:It's a whole lot of conditioning that humans have all agreed to.
Speaker B:And the most wonderful thing I think about being alive today is we are so heavily.
Speaker B:I don't know why I'm using the word heavily, because we are heavily stepping out of that conditioning.
Speaker B:And I think I'm tuning in the word heavily.
Speaker B:We're Taking solid steps, heavy steps, not lightweight steps.
Speaker B:We are not living this way anymore.
Speaker B:And so we have to face.
Speaker B:Face the realities of what's going on, acknowledge them, see what we are releasing.
Speaker B:That's healing, letting go of so we can become the new evolved species that we've always been meant to be.
Speaker A:You know, it's funny that you said that too, because, well, and I agree with the word heavy.
Speaker A:It's not heavy as in like deep and dark.
Speaker A:It's heavy as in solid and, and foundational.
Speaker A:That's kind of what I think when I think of that going kind of back to the foundations.
Speaker A:But it is true.
Speaker A:You hear these wor.
Speaker A:Like narcissist.
Speaker A:And I mean, that is thrown around so much now.
Speaker A:And, and I think we all have narcissistic tendencies.
Speaker A:I mean, we.
Speaker A:Of course we do.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's our ego.
Speaker A:I mean, that's just life.
Speaker A:But I look at it too, and I remember going to therapy and I was in therapy for a while and I remember going back to one of my therapists and saying, why didn't you tell me my mother was a narcissist?
Speaker A:Like, why didn't you explain that to me?
Speaker A:She's like, well, I never met your mother and I couldn't really diagnose.
Speaker A:And I'm like, and, and she, I remember this is 20, 20 years ago and she was like.
Speaker A:And it's kind of just now getting to where we will say, you know, it's in a form of a manipulation that has just never been explored before.
Speaker A:And it was really coming to light.
Speaker A:But I, I agree in that we are in a world and I don't know if it's because of the Internet, because we have so much access to information that it is coming to light.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:I love the fact that it's no longer ex.
Speaker A:Normalized to bury everything.
Speaker A:To bury it deep.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I love that.
Speaker A:I love, I love the world we're in right now.
Speaker A:I love the fact that grown men are out there crying on stage and saying, you have to cry.
Speaker A:You have to let it go.
Speaker A:You can't hold this in.
Speaker A:It's going to tear you up, you know, so, yeah, I love that.
Speaker A:And I was wondering where you were going with that question because I didn't know if you were going to the.
Speaker A:We're going to.
Speaker A:I was very curious about that question because I didn't know if you were going to go to the fact that this stuff never existed, because obviously it existed.
Speaker A:I mean, trauma has been built Brought down for generation after generation after generation.
Speaker A:But you're right, it was just normalized.
Speaker A:It was just the way things happen.
Speaker B:It was normalized and it was held in, you know, sexual abuse was not something you told anybody.
Speaker B:I was at an event, I was co.
Speaker B:Leading this practice at a retreat.
Speaker B:There are about 50 people there.
Speaker B:And we were doing this practice on forgiveness.
Speaker B:And so there were two circles of people facing each other.
Speaker B:I'll skip the details, but it was about looking at the other person and imagining that they were someone from your past and forgiving them.
Speaker B:So this went.
Speaker B:Went on.
Speaker B:And then this one older woman just started crying uncontrollably, uncontrollably, sobbing.
Speaker B:And she.
Speaker B:She wasn't moving beyond it.
Speaker B:And I, and I went and, you know, talked with her a little bit and then took her off to the side and she confided in me that she never told anyone that she knew.
Speaker B:She knew that her granddaughter was being sexually abused by her son.
Speaker B:And she told nobody and she did nothing about it.
Speaker B:And the shame and the guilt that came up and so I helped her release that.
Speaker B:It's feeling it.
Speaker B:And then what she confided, once we moved through that, was that she was sexually abused as a child and never told anyone.
Speaker B:And this woman was around 70.
Speaker B:She carried it with her her whole life.
Speaker B:And that.
Speaker B:And what happens with the patterns is that they repeat themselves.
Speaker B:So when we're holding in guilt and shame for anything, we are going to attract more of that energy to us and we just.
Speaker B:We can stuff it in.
Speaker B:But she never felt safe to tell anybody because people didn't talk about their emotions.
Speaker B:Everybody needs.
Speaker B:It's a human need to have an emotional resource.
Speaker B:And so when I asked the question what was healing?
Speaker B:Healing is so much a release of the deep emotions, of allowing them.
Speaker B:And it's not how human beings used to function, period.
Speaker B:And it's through my lifetime, our lifetime, you're not 20 years old.
Speaker B:That we could see how it wasn't a thing.
Speaker B:But then I remember when I was raising my kids and when I got divorced from my alcoholic, narcissistic husband, that I really embraced the need to feel emotions and encouraged my children.
Speaker B:And we spoke differently.
Speaker B:We came from a different place.
Speaker B:And that is healing.
Speaker B:So we are still in that process.
Speaker B:And you're right, it's a joy to be alive.
Speaker B:It's okay to tell the deep, dark secrets.
Speaker B:It's actually necessary in order for us to grow and evolve.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And you can only imagine, like you said 100 years ago, 50 years ago, my Grandparents.
Speaker A:I mean my father was sexually molested.
Speaker A:I didn't find out until way later.
Speaker A:But of course that made sense as to why he had so much pent up anger, how, you know, he was a drinker, he was this, he was that.
Speaker A:And it just really let me, it made, gave me such a level of empathy for him that it broke my heart that he could never tell anybody that, that he, you know, he was a 13 year old boy for 7 years being molested by an uncle.
Speaker A:Like, how do you live with that and not.
Speaker A:And now I'm just like.
Speaker A:And you know, I'll drop things, like I'll.
Speaker A:I dropped a comment in front of my mother in law the other day and I thought she was going to fall on the floor.
Speaker A:And I said something and I said, well, because she said, oh, we all have trauma, but we just need to get over it.
Speaker A:And I said, and then she was talking about forgiveness and I know, and I was like.
Speaker A:And then I said, you know, there are some acts to me that are not forgivable.
Speaker A:Like the, you don't condone, like there are some things.
Speaker A:And I said in forgiveness.
Speaker A:I said that's a whole nother, that's a whole nother podcast episode actually.
Speaker A:But, but I said to her, and I think I dropped the comment and I said, well, you know, I said as a child I had a right to be angry.
Speaker A:When my mother was pimping me out to her drug dealers, I thought she was gonna fall on the floor.
Speaker A:And she's like, you didn't tell.
Speaker A:And literally that was her thing.
Speaker A:You didn't tell anybody, did you?
Speaker A:What, what did people say?
Speaker A:I don't give a rat's ass what people say now.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, but that was, that was seven, she's 83 years old.
Speaker A:And it was just, oh my gosh, the shame.
Speaker A:And it almost was like I could see it on her face that, the shame that her daughter in law would be talking about something like this.
Speaker A:And I was like, wow, like that's crazy.
Speaker A:You know, but yeah, we didn't, we didn't talk about that, those things and what.
Speaker A:Can I ask what your aha moment was where all of a sudden you were like, this is it.
Speaker A:I'm not living like this.
Speaker A:I'm not holding it in.
Speaker A:I'm not being that person.
Speaker B:Well, like many women I could see, I was starting to see in my marriage how much our poor marriage was affecting our children.
Speaker B:So like many women who are with someone who's narcissistic, you have to face the fact that you're codependent, period, Period.
Speaker B:I started to learn about what codependency was.
Speaker B:I didn't know what it was.
Speaker B:You know, I was young.
Speaker B:We got married really young.
Speaker B:We had children early on in the marriage.
Speaker B:I mean, I was married a month before I turned 19.
Speaker B:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:Yeah, you were really young that you.
Speaker B:Just grow up and you get married and have children and you buy a house.
Speaker B:And so I applied for the mortgage on our house when I was 17, living in Alberta, and you have to be 18 to borrow money.
Speaker B:So, yeah, we bought the house, got married, and then by the time I was 21, I was pregnant.
Speaker B:But I started to see the impact on my children.
Speaker B:And we had a blowout one night.
Speaker B:That was the real tipping point.
Speaker B:And so I started to get professional help.
Speaker B:I started to read self help books.
Speaker B:And then I thought, no, this is, this is.
Speaker A:I always.
Speaker B:I knew for a number of years I would leave him, but I gained enough knowledge.
Speaker B:I gained enough knowledge to leave, and that was it.
Speaker B:And then it was later exploring the similarities between him and my own father.
Speaker B:My own father was not an alcoholic.
Speaker B:So I'm like, why?
Speaker B:Why did I end up with this guy?
Speaker B:But I, you know, through my own healing, and I.
Speaker B:Then I. I discovered meditation, which was, you know, through an extremely profound event on the beach one day where my deceased brother's spirit came.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:And my.
Speaker B:My girlfriend channeled him, and his message was to start meditating.
Speaker B:But that's.
Speaker B:That's what got me on that journey and my own intense healing.
Speaker B:But when I look back, you know, you talk about the shame that people hold, and you mentioned forgiveness, and I would love to speak about that on another podcast.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:We are all divine beings.
Speaker B:We signed up for all our wounding.
Speaker B:We signed up to learn our lessons.
Speaker B:And it's about taking responsibility.
Speaker B:That's a root chakra thing.
Speaker B:And growing through it.
Speaker B:So if we can see the other, what happens when we heal our own wounds?
Speaker B:Truly at the deepest level.
Speaker B:And so many of my clients who've been in therapy for 40 years and done everything, they say, cheryl, nobody goes as deep as you.
Speaker B:I mean, we get this stuff at the core early on in life.
Speaker B:As a toddler, as a baby, even in the womb, in utero.
Speaker B:And what happens is when we heal ourselves fully, compassion for the other, for the perpetrator, naturally develops.
Speaker A:Naturally.
Speaker B:We can see how wounded they were and that they are a divine being as well.
Speaker B:And they had to learn.
Speaker B:They have to learn through that.
Speaker B:So it's not about the.
Speaker B:Forgiveness isn't something you do with your head now.
Speaker B:You know, I do chakra readings.
Speaker B:I do a lot of chakra readings, and I can see through the chakra readings how much people have worked on forgiveness, how much of it has held, and whether they practice true forgiveness through their own healing or not, because it's a natural occurrence to me.
Speaker B:That's what I witness and that's what I've experienced in myself.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, that makes total sense.
Speaker A:And yeah, we'll have to do another podcast episode on forgiveness.
Speaker A:I. I talk a lot about that on that.
Speaker A:You know, we do.
Speaker A:I have a lot of clients and a lot of people that I know that go through like 12 step programs because of a lot of children of alcoholics also have their own substance abuse issues that they struggle with.
Speaker A:And they're in 12 step, you know, the whole thing.
Speaker A:And forgiveness is somewhere where people get stuck.
Speaker A:They just get stuck.
Speaker A:And I'm like, well, let's redefine what forgiveness means to you then.
Speaker A:You know, it doesn't necessarily mean going to your mother and saying, I forgive you for doing this.
Speaker A:And I, you know, that's not like.
Speaker A:No, but I love that.
Speaker A:So what obstacles did you run across?
Speaker A:Was forgiven when in your healing journey was forgiveness one of them?
Speaker B:I learned.
Speaker B:I learned to not look at the other so much, but to look at myself.
Speaker B:It's taking responsibility because one of the things.
Speaker B:And I didn't know this at the time, but I know it now.
Speaker B:Science has really come a long way with research on what trauma really is, what wounding really is, and trauma.
Speaker B:It's been proven trauma is actually encoded in the right side of the brain.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Which is the subconscious.
Speaker B:And it's not so much about what happened.
Speaker B:It's the lingering emotions, especially of uncertainty through life.
Speaker B:It's really hard to feel confident when.
Speaker B:When you have trauma in your background.
Speaker B:And one of the most common traumas, and I think so many, if not all of my clients have this.
Speaker B:It's the lack of an emotional support.
Speaker B:Growing up, when we don't have an emotional support, it's considered trauma.
Speaker B:It's the silent, hidden, ongoing trauma that for years, decades, even the best therapists, the best psychologist could not recognize, did not recognize.
Speaker B:It is coming forward today.
Speaker B:But that is trauma.
Speaker B:And so when we don't learn to express our emotions, we end up with a backlog, a huge backlog.
Speaker B:So when I started on my healing journey, in answer to your question, it was about releasing all these repressed emotions.
Speaker B:And then I felt better and within time I realized that as I released these repressed, you know, horrible emotions.
Speaker B:I mean I remember one particular healing meditation of just feeling utter disgust, utter disgust.
Speaker B:And it was, oh, it just was making me sick and I sobbed and you know, I used the full breath and I'll talk about that, why I use the full breath.
Speaker B:But I never figured out what that was, what it was about.
Speaker B:I never knew.
Speaker B:And it's not required, it is not necessary to remember everything.
Speaker B:It's also been proven that trauma is stored in the right side of the brain through physical sensations and emotions, not through linear memories.
Speaker B:Linear memories are a left brain thing.
Speaker B:When we have trauma, if we have any memories that are always fragmented, they're always fragmented, they're in pieces.
Speaker B:So we may remember a piece.
Speaker B:And when we don't remember anything, the healing is more broad, it covers more of the patterns so it's not necessary.
Speaker B:And it's more about the body holds things physically.
Speaker B:So even during healings I might feel pain and same with my clients, pressure, tension, a lot of discomfort, tightness.
Speaker B:But it always moves, it moves pretty quickly and, but it's, it's really the deepest level is the emotions and then underneath the emotions are the subconscious beliefs that were formed, that be formed, not the perpetrator.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker B:So how can you, how can you even think of forgiving them?
Speaker B:You're responsible.
Speaker B:So Even as a 2 year old, how does a 2 year old have capacity to make logical sense of things?
Speaker B:They don't have it.
Speaker B:They are confused with all trauma there's a sense of confusion.
Speaker B:So they form these subconscious beliefs which then can be released and you discover more of who you truly are and you discover what's true and then you form new subconscious beliefs which reprograms your subconscious.
Speaker B:You know the brain's neuroplasticity is absolutely fascinating.
Speaker A:What we today, absolutely resilient and so resilient.
Speaker A:And I love that you said, and I'm going to rephrase, not rephrase but I'm just going to repeat back because for the listeners I think it's very important what you said, that you didn't remember the event that made you feel that way, but you were able to release that feeling because so many people I think really hinder their own progress because they're so afraid of being re traumatized or re digging stuff up or remembering.
Speaker A:I know it was a really.
Speaker A:Look, I had, I've had a recurring dream since I was 5 years old and when I tell you it's a graphic dream, I don't even know how a 5 year old dreams something like this.
Speaker A:But I am 57 and I will still have this dream maybe once a year.
Speaker A:And I remember going to like a hypnotherapist and I'm like.
Speaker A:And they were like, well, you know, we can, you should go to a psychotherapist.
Speaker A:You should like, let's, let's get to the bottom of this.
Speaker A:And I, I remember and it wasn't until just like maybe 6 years ago someone said to me, we can get rid of that, the feeling, the emotions, everything, without you having to try to figure out what exactly happened that caused that recurring dream.
Speaker A:Because that I think was my biggest fear.
Speaker A:I didn't want to relive whatever it was.
Speaker A:I didn't want, I didn't want to know, honestly, but I was.
Speaker A:Because it had to have been so horrific to have a five year old have this dream, if that makes sense.
Speaker B:Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker B:And you definitely do not have to relive anything.
Speaker B:There may be pieces, but we don't focus on what happened.
Speaker B:The left brain is going to want to make sense of it, but we don't have to focus on what happened and the actual release.
Speaker B:We want to make sure there's two ways to do it and one will re traumatize you.
Speaker B:If you just get caught up in the tears and the pain and all that, you can re traumatize yourself.
Speaker B:So what I use with all my clients and what I teach is, is to use a long full breath because you want to stay in the subconscious.
Speaker B:And we'll talk about the long full breath and there's where the deepest release happens so that it's gone.
Speaker B:You will never ever experience whatever it was in that way again.
Speaker A:So talk more about it.
Speaker A:Go ahead.
Speaker B:Okay, what happens when we breathe fully with the lower abdomen?
Speaker B:And I invite you, everybody listening, and Tammy, put your hand on your lower abdomen with your thumb at the level of your navel.
Speaker B:And you want to breathe with a long inhale to the count of six or eight seconds.
Speaker B:Let your belly expand and then you exhale using your abdominal muscles until you expel all the air again, six or eight seconds.
Speaker B:So what does this do?
Speaker B:It changes your brain function.
Speaker B:So when we're sitting here, we're breathing with the back part of the brain, the brainstem, the medulla oblongata.
Speaker B:As soon as we change the breath to conscious breathing using our abdominal muscles, that breathing shifts in the brain to the frontal lobal brain.
Speaker B:And what it does, it frees up the back of the brain, the medulla Oblongata, so we can start to access the subconscious.
Speaker B:So when you start to heal yourself, I'll just go into my three steps.
Speaker B:Is that okay?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, no, absolutely.
Speaker A:Because this is fascinating because no one has ever told me why.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:The explanation I've gotten from pretty much everybody, even breath practitioners, was that when you breathe in through your belly, well, that your rib cage doesn't expand.
Speaker A:That's the explanation, the only explanation I've gotten.
Speaker A:So you want to breathe through your belly because you can actually physically make your, like, you can see your belly coming out, but when you breathe into, like, your lungs, your.
Speaker A:Your rib cage doesn't expand, so you can't get a full breath.
Speaker A:That's the only explanation I've ever had given to me.
Speaker B:Oh, the other thing that happens when we breathe in the chest, you will always notice.
Speaker B:Well, you won't feel it when you're being traumatized.
Speaker B:You hold your breath breathing, and they hold the breath in the chest.
Speaker B:So you don't want to ever, ever do that.
Speaker B:You don't want to be breathing in the chest, because you will.
Speaker B:When, when you're doing this type of healing, you, your body will want to hold your breath.
Speaker B:So also, keeping the breath down low and in the abdomen helps keep you in the subconscious and release it and it.
Speaker B:And you stay aware of it.
Speaker B:So even when I'm working with people, I keep reminding them to keep your focus on the breath, because I can see it, I notice.
Speaker B:And that will release the trauma.
Speaker B:And then what it also does.
Speaker B:Think of it this way.
Speaker B:When I do chakra readings, I don't see the chakras with all the lotus flowers and the petals and the mandalas and the colors.
Speaker B:I see them as light because we are made of light.
Speaker B:Kirlian photography has shown that.
Speaker B:And then I see the black spots.
Speaker B:Those are where the blocks are.
Speaker B:And I can tell you what everything is all about and where it is.
Speaker B:And so it's extremely in depth.
Speaker B:A chakra reading.
Speaker B:People are always blown away with how complex it is and how much information they get.
Speaker B:Because I look at the top, the bottom, the middle, the sides, and.
Speaker B:And everything has different meanings.
Speaker B:And I often have to tune into each individual.
Speaker B:I'm still learning through them.
Speaker B:But what happens.
Speaker B:You think of that block, think of it like a black ball.
Speaker B:So your energy isn't flowing there, right?
Speaker B:It's like a clog in a plumbing pipe.
Speaker B:So when you breathe fully and you release this block, it allows your energy to flow and the light comes in and the Actual truths of your being will come in and you'll realize the most amazing things that you've ever, ever known.
Speaker B:And so the three stabs, if you think of the word ace, you can always remember if you just think of an ace of spades.
Speaker B:A is for access, C is for clear, and E is for empowerment.
Speaker B:So I've told you how to access.
Speaker B:You want to sit up nice and straight.
Speaker B:The spine straight and vertical is extremely important.
Speaker B:That keeps the energy running up and down.
Speaker B:Sit in a chair, not cross legged.
Speaker B:You want your feet firmly planted on the floor and you want to be comfortable.
Speaker B:And so breathing through the nose helps keep you in your body.
Speaker B:So if you have a clogged nose, you can breathe through your mouth, but ideally breathing through the nose.
Speaker B:And you know when you're in your left brain because you're thinking, thinking, thinking.
Speaker B:So this is a real shift for people.
Speaker B:And I, for me, it's kind of like I get into the breath and then I just wait to see what comes up.
Speaker B:So you allow the information to come up from your subconscious, whether it's an emotion, notice any physical sensations and then the clearing.
Speaker B:The C is for clear.
Speaker B:And when something comes up, you want to breathe through the emotions, breathe through the physical sensations.
Speaker B:And ideally you keep your eyes to start with in the root chakra, because that's the bulk of the wounding is there.
Speaker B:And that chakra affects all the other chakras.
Speaker B:And you can follow what I call the emotional thread.
Speaker B:So you go, there's layers of emotions that have been held.
Speaker B:So the first emotion might be fear, it might be anger, but you go underneath.
Speaker B:And it seems like sadness is so often under anger, it's wild because it's not expected.
Speaker B:But you can follow down to the deeper emotions of shame and guilt and confusion.
Speaker B:And then you can go back to, you can ask your subconscious, when did this pattern begin?
Speaker B:So you start with a current event, whatever it is, you're angry with somebody, you're angry with your husband, whatever you follow those emotions, they have very little to do with him.
Speaker B:It's more about your pattern.
Speaker B:So then you go back to, your subconscious will let you know when it first existed, when this first pattern, this pattern was first developed.
Speaker B:And you will never discover what you're not ready to discover.
Speaker B:Okay, so you might go back to age three, but it really started in utero.
Speaker B:But you're, you're ready to clear it at age 3, right?
Speaker B:That, and then you release everything and you can reparent.
Speaker B:And that's a whole other topic.
Speaker B:But it's all energy work.
Speaker B:And then the empowerment is when all the truths come through.
Speaker B:People are always blown away how and they the truth of your being and these amazing emotions of joy, expansion.
Speaker B:A lot of people experience light and then that's the empowerment.
Speaker B:And the only homework, and I love to recommend the homework, is that you continue to breathe into these new truths and the new emotions with your inner child once a day for a week or two.
Speaker B:Because that creates the neuro.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:It's kind of like a highway.
Speaker B:So you have the highway of pain.
Speaker B:You want to create a new one that's taking advantage of the brain's neuroplasticity.
Speaker B:So you want to keep that going.
Speaker B:And you will notice what you attract is different.
Speaker B:You'll notice how you talk is different.
Speaker B:And you'll notice how certain events that may have triggered you in the past don't trigger you anymore.
Speaker B:It's amazing.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So for the people listening, and I know we're limited on time today, but when you say breathe into the emotion, just talk one minute about what that really looks like.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Are you thinking about the emotion?
Speaker A:Like talk about that just for a second.
Speaker B:You open yourself up and allow yourself to feel it.
Speaker B:And when we've been conditioned to not feel our emotions to stuff them, that's our sort of go to.
Speaker B:But staying in the subconscious, using the full breath helps.
Speaker B:So you keep your eyes down in the root chakra and you just keep breathing and you allow yourself to feel the emotion however you're feeling it.
Speaker B:And it can be completely overwhelming.
Speaker B:You may feel discomfort in your body of some sort.
Speaker B:You don't change your focus.
Speaker B:What I've discovered over the years is if you change your focus to oh, this hurts in my shoulder, that's like a dandelion.
Speaker B:It's the flower on the dandelion.
Speaker B:So wounds, any, any trauma, any wounds.
Speaker B:I think of them like a dandelion.
Speaker B:You want to get rid of a dandelion out of your yard, you're not going to pluck the flower?
Speaker A:No, it just seeds and makes a lot more.
Speaker B:You need to go all the way to the tip of the root.
Speaker B:And we know how deep the roots of a dandelion are.
Speaker B:So you need to keep digging.
Speaker B:You need to stay deep in the root and you're going to pluck the whole dandelion, the whole wound.
Speaker B:When you go to the pain in your shoulder, you're plucking the flower, it starts to become superficial.
Speaker B:So it's staying in that full breath, breathing, allowing the emotion, knowing that it will end so it can be uncomfortable.
Speaker B:But know that it's temporary.
Speaker B:The full will release it.
Speaker B:It's just like, let's say, I think of a.
Speaker B:Somebody buys a home and they want to renovate it.
Speaker B:They buy it specifically to renovate it and flip it and they go in the kitchen and the stove hasn't been cleaned in 20 years.
Speaker B:The oven is disgusting.
Speaker B:Crusted on, crusted on, crusted on.
Speaker B:It's going to take some very uncomfortable effort to clean that thing.
Speaker B:So you can think of it the same way.
Speaker B:Or a big clog in a drain.
Speaker B:You have to take the snake, you have to keep poking at it, poking at it, and then you poke at the emotion enough, you feel it enough, and it's just like all of a sudden there is a release and your body calms and relaxes and then you can open up to the new, higher level, the enjoyable emotions coming in.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker A:Absolutely love it.
Speaker A:Because I know people have said to me, you hear these words like, get in touch, breathe through your body, breathe through the pain, breathe that spot.
Speaker A:And people like, what does that even mean?
Speaker A:I mean, literally, I've had that.
Speaker A:Had that question a lot.
Speaker A:And that makes sense.
Speaker A:You know, you put it, it's kind of like meditating, like people like, well, what do I do?
Speaker A:What does it mean to be in my body?
Speaker A:And those are terms that again, we hear all this.
Speaker A:We're on TikTok, we're on Instagram, we're watching all these coaches say, be in your body and.
Speaker A:And feel it.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And that doesn't really always make sense, Practical sense to some people.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:And that's how you do it.
Speaker B:Those are the steps.
Speaker B:And it's really about learning the full breath first.
Speaker B:Let your body get acquainted with it.
Speaker B:And it's mastering it.
Speaker B:Because when we have wounds, that breath is often not smooth.
Speaker B:It can be.
Speaker B:You might notice you have a much longer exhale and a way shorter inhale or vice versa.
Speaker B:Those are all just symptoms of held trauma.
Speaker B:So even just through mastering the full breath, you are healing yourself?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:I notice it when, you know, it's when I can remember my daughter, she would get so anxious and I would just be like, breathe deep.
Speaker A:Look how like, she's like.
Speaker A:She's like, I can't breathe.
Speaker A:And I'm like, you can breathe, like, breathe, breathe, like.
Speaker A:And we would walk through and.
Speaker A:And then I started telling her, feel your chest.
Speaker A:You could if your chest, if you can feel it going up and down while you're breathing, and you're anxious, you're not breathing, like you're, you're just.
Speaker A:And I feel like in today's world, honestly, so much of us stay in that running.
Speaker A:And like, I try very hard to be conscious all the time of my breath.
Speaker A:Like, so that because by nature you're running around, you're jumping in the car, you're doing this, you're doing that, it's very easy to get into that kind of panting, like, you know, and it's just, just two or three deep breaths can change your whole nervous system, literally.
Speaker B:Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker B:And what happens when you learn the full breath and you practice it?
Speaker B:You will automatically go to it eventually.
Speaker B:So if, if something tense is going on and you're holding your breath or you start to hyperventilate, you will automatically go into a full breath.
Speaker B:You start to get used to using it.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it's.
Speaker A:Yes, I, it's absolutely one of the best pieces of advice I learned a long time ago.
Speaker A:I'm just more intrigued that no one ever explained really what was happening when I did that with my brain.
Speaker A:And I mean, it kind of made sense to me.
Speaker A:I mean, and when you say it, it makes way more sense.
Speaker A:But I could, it's almost like I could feel it going on, but I was just kind of like, yeah, I need to switch, I need to flip flop.
Speaker A:But that's what regulating your nervous system is, is, you know, move.
Speaker A:Because, you know, it's like I told my daughter, there's so many parts of trauma that literally physiologically change your DNA, like your brain, the size, the shape, you know, everything.
Speaker A:And, but it can all be re.
Speaker A:Rewired.
Speaker A:Like you said, our brains are putty.
Speaker A:Putty.
Speaker A:But, oh, wow, this has been amazing.
Speaker A:I've learned so many things.
Speaker A:I'm sure the listeners have too, but.
Speaker A:Cheryl, tell people where they, if they want to work with you.
Speaker A:And I know, I love what you.
Speaker A:I'm looking at your crystals in the back.
Speaker A:For the people that are just listening to this beautiful crystals in the back and quartz and all kinds of stuff, it just gives me happy chills just to look at it.
Speaker A:But, but where can people go to find you, work with you, learn more about what you have.
Speaker B:You can, you can find me on Instagram, Stel.
Speaker B:Cheryl, you can go to my website, starofdivinelight.com and that name was downloaded one day.
Speaker B:It was amazing anyway, because we are all stars of divine light.
Speaker B:And you can, you can, you know, you can find me on social media, on YouTube.
Speaker B:But one of the best Ways to find me is to download my three meditations that I'm giving as a giveaway.
Speaker B:And these are new.
Speaker B:There are three powerful meditations teaching you about the full breath so you can get used to it.
Speaker B:There are two of them, the full breath and the rhythmic breath.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And then my most listened to meditation creating safety and stability in the root chakra.
Speaker B:Because it's one of the biggest blocks around moving forward that my clients experience is you need to feel safe and stable and then you can move into trust and faith.
Speaker B:So know that all your blocks are serving you as an opportunity to grow.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They are all a catalyst for change and you can have deep transformation.
Speaker B:So I hope you click on that.
Speaker A:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker A:And we'll put that in the show notes for people driving so that you can go grab it.
Speaker A:Don't want anybody being unsafe, but definitely go there and grab that.
Speaker A:And Cheryl, this has been absolutely amazing.
Speaker A:Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker B:Oh, thank you, Tammy.
Speaker B:It's really just been such an honor.
Speaker A:Well, good.
Speaker A:And before you leave, I always have the guests.
Speaker A:I don't know if you've listened to any episodes, but I always have the guests leave the listeners with just some final words of wisdom or something tangible to take with them throughout the day to make their life a little better.
Speaker B:Yes, thank you.
Speaker B:What I want to say is you are all powerful beyond belief.
Speaker B:Powerful beyond what you can currently imagine.
Speaker B:All of my clients, when we finished working together, I say to them, did you ever think you'd become the woman that you are now after 11 weeks?
Speaker B:And they always say, no, I couldn't imagine this.
Speaker B:So it's staying in the moment, healing and allow your greatest self to be born through you.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:That was so sweet.
Speaker A:So you heard it, guys.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's Cheryl.
Speaker A:And she is absolutely amazing.
Speaker A:And for everybody listening, you heard it, you heard she.
Speaker A:I can't say it any better than that, that.
Speaker A:But know that you are worthy.
Speaker A:Know that every step you take walking forward towards a happier, more joyous you is.
Speaker A:Is your.
Speaker A:Is your divine right.
Speaker A:And you're just amazing right now, right where you are right here.
Speaker A:But there's better out there for you.
Speaker A:So much better.
Speaker A:And you deserve it.
Speaker A:So thank you.
Speaker A:And you all have a blessed week and we will see you back by.
