Episode 325

E 325: The Hidden Fertility Factors Doctors Miss with Kirsten Karchmer

What if infertility isn't simply a hormone problem?

In this eye-opening episode of Adult Child of Dysfunction, Tammy sits down with fertility expert, healthcare innovator, and Conceivable founder Kirsten Karchmer to explore the hidden factors that impact fertility, reproductive health, and overall wellness.

After helping more than 10,000 women in clinical practice, Kirsten discovered that many women struggling to conceive were being told they had "unexplained infertility" while deeper root causes were being overlooked. Together, Tammy and Kirsten dive into the powerful connection between stress, nervous system dysregulation, childhood trauma, energy depletion, inflammation, and reproductive health.

Kirsten shares how her years as a fertility specialist led her to create Conceivable, an AI-powered women's health platform designed to make personalized fertility support more accessible and affordable. The conversation also explores how mindset, self-talk, resilience, and even environmental factors like mold exposure can significantly impact health outcomes.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• Why infertility is often far more complex than hormones alone

• The connection between childhood trauma and reproductive health

• How chronic stress affects cortisol, progesterone, and fertility

• Why nervous system regulation matters for healing and conception

• The role of shame, self-worth, and subconscious beliefs in health outcomes

• How AI is changing the future of women's healthcare

• Why energy levels may be one of your most important health indicators

• The surprising impact of environmental toxins and mold exposure

• How to advocate for yourself when you're told everything looks "normal"

Whether you're navigating fertility challenges, healing from trauma, struggling with chronic symptoms, or simply looking for a deeper understanding of your body, this episode offers hope, insight, and practical wisdom.

Resources Mentioned

Website: https://conceivable.com

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@yourfertilityexpert

TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@kirsten_karchmer

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Transcript
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Hello everybody, and welcome

back to another episode of

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Adult Child of Dysfunction.

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Today we have with us

a very special guest.

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We have Kirsten Karchmer.

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She is a local tech pioneer and

women's health expert, and the founder

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and CEO of Conceivable Technologies.

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After helping more than 10,000 women

in her clinic, she built one of the

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first AI-driven fertility platforms

to tackle the hidden factors that keep

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women from getting and staying pregnant.

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named one of the most innovative

health startups, her work has been

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featured everywhere from TechCrunch to

Fox News, and she's built a community

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of over 300,000 women on TikTok.

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Welcome, Kirsten.

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Thank you very much for having me.

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I appreciate it.

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Yes.

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I love that…

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Well, first of all, I love that you

tackle this problem because it's

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a problem that is- talked about.

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Unless you're in . that immediate world,

and it's not affecting you directly,

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people don't even think about it.

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It's not something that would come up.

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But if I really think about it,

and I thought about it when I read

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your bio, is that everybody has

at some time experienced someone

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that has gone through this.

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And- In fact, I was talking to a

woman the other day and she said,

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"I know more women who can't get

pregnant than women who have gotten

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pregnant in my age group right now."

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And she's, like, a high-performing

attorney, you know, like

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a partner-track person.

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But yeah, I think that, you know,

it's about one in five who can't

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get pregnant right now, and I think

that that's actually not correct.

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Because I talk to women all day

long on social media who are like,

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"I've been trying for eight years.

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I never got pregnant."

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I'm like, "Have you had a workup?"

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Which would have meant a diagnosis, which

would have included them in that amount.

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And such a large percentage,

there's so much shame.

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Women don't even tell their doctors often.

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Right.

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They just feel like,

well, you know, I don't…

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Sometimes if they, if they're like,

"I know I don't take good care

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of myself, that's probably why

I'm not getting pregnant," Right.

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And a lot of people, honestly, like, my

thinking was, 'cause I had a friend that

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was trying to get pregnant for a really

long time, and she just said the resources

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at the time just weren't out there for her

as far as financially and everything else.

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She's like, "Well, even if I could

do in vitro, even if I could do

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this, even if I could do that,

like, I don't have the money."

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Yeah.

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And she just kinda gave up.

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And then I always told her the same thing.

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I said, "Just give up and pray,

and that's when it'll happen."

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And sure enough, she's like literally at

the end of that, or she didn't even at

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that point had given up, had moved on,

had done something else, had just decided

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not to, adopted a little girl, and then

the little girl was two, and there she is

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pregnant and carried it and everything.

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And she's like, "That's when, I adopted

the little girl is when I gave up

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trying to, really honestly trying."

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"Was it in my mind the whole time?"

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And I'm like, "There's, no telling.

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Mm-hmm.

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The human body is amazing, but

yet so frustrating sometimes.

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Well, it's frustrating because

I think it's actually beyond

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our comprehension currently.

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Like, our current level of

intelligence does not have…

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And even with, with Chinese

medicine, people say, "Well,

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how does acupuncture work?"

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And I was like, "I can

tell you some theories.

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We don't have words to explain

exactly what's happening."

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Right.

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You know, we have to use quantum

mechanics and physics and things like

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that, and, and we don't even know

that would still be a hypothesis.

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Exactly.

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And, and one that people might even

not recognize or not agree with

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or not believe in, and it's faith.

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it's everything that goes into it.

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And- But yet so frustrating for people

that are trying to get pregnant when you

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hear things like, "Just let it be God's

will," or, "Maybe there's a reason."

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And, and that doesn't make

anything better, right?

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No, it's not useful.

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Or, you know, like I always say whenever

I do talks, I always say, you know,

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getting diagnosed with infertility

is as stressful as getting diagnosed

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with cancer Like, the levels…

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Like, women who go through infertility

journeys have a very high instance

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of reporting PTSD from that.

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That's how stressful this

experience is for people.

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Right.

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For these, for these people, the

doctors are like, "You have unexplained

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infertility," or, "You're kinda old."

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Like, it's so vague, and

there's so few treatments.

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And to your point, a study…

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I mean, why I'm here today is because,

ou know, l- I read a study in:

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said less than 3% of couples could afford

fertility treatment, and I fucking cried

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my eyes out because I was like, "I've been

part of that problem for 25 years too."

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Yeah.

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Even acupuncture is cost-prohibitive

for your average person if you're going

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enough to make a difference, you know?

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And so, you know, how do we figure out

how to democratize access for care,

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make it better and practically free?

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Right.

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Well, I love that.

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Your project, I want you to l- tell the

audience about it, but as a backstory real

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quick, I mean, you were in fertility, in

that world as a clinician for 20 years.

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Yeah.

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Um, can you talk about some of the big

picture beliefs that you came out of

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that with as far as- Oh my gosh, so many.

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Because I…

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I mean, the thing that I do

all day long is connect dots.

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Like, I just, I see connections.

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Like, you'll tell me something about what

you're working on, I'm like, "We should do

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a partnership," because I see some kind…

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You know.

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And, and then, and, and, and

being an acupuncturist, that's

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what we're trained to do.

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Like, a, a Western doctor is,

is t- trained to, like, with

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an arrow, hit the bullseye.

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Find the only thing that's causing it.

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And in Chinese medicine,

it's more of a shotgun.

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What are all the things that

could be contributing to this?

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They're just a complete…

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And, and so in order to do that,

we might have, like, 50 things,

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but we need to pattern match them.

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So the things that I took for it, the

first one was that when I was first

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in practice, this is like in 2000, so

long ago, everybody was bringing me

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their basal body temperature charts.

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And I saw about 200 fertility

patients a week, so a lot of patients.

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And but that was not part of, you

know, Chinese medicine training

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in any way because they didn't

have thermometers 3,000 years ago.

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But I kept seeing patterns,

because it's a chart, right?

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They're like, "Look at my chart,"

and I'd look at their chart.

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And I'm, "Hmm, okay, interesting.

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You did ovulate.

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I can see that," you know.

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And I started seeing, oh, all

the people who have PCOS, their

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chart kinda looks the same.

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Mm-hmm.

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Oh, all the people who have high FSH,

their charts do something the same.

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All the people who miscarry-

Temperatures never get above 98 after

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ovulation, and so on, and so on.

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And I got so interested in it

that I started, I was like, "I

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wanna try to formalize this,

but I don't know how to do it."

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This is before AI, which

would've made it very easy to do.

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Right.

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I was like, I went and cross-referenced

500,000 basal body temperatures

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manually across their bas-

their differential diagnosis.

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So, like, can say like, you know,

publicly they can say like, "I have

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PCOS, I have high FSH," whatever.

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And so I started comparing to see,

like, in large, large numbers,

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and it actually really mapped out

so many hormone indicators, which

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told me we need a lot less testing.

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We need to find what are the observational

data that might not be perfect data,

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like, like your energy level on a 1

to 10 without caffeine or exercise

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is probably the single most important

health indicator that you have.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like, if you can't make,

conserve, and restore energy,

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nothing else is going to work.

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And so these are the kind of patterns

that I started seeing where, like,

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these are the most important subclinical

factors to pay attention to, and then

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started to pattern match them with

evidence like basal body temperature

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charting and things like that.

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Okay, wow.

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And 500,000.

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I can see you.

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Well, I'm just picturing you old time

computer, like copy, paste, copy,

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paste 500,000, half a million times.

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who works with me, than me, like 15

years younger, and some research one

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time, and he was looking at my…

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It was on Google, before AI, and

he was looking at my search query.

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And he's like, "Oh, you know if

you put brackets around that term,

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you'll get better search results."

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And I was like, "Oh, you know everything."

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He goes, "Well, didn't

you do a master's degree?

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Like, you had to write a thesis."

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And I was like, "Bro, I wrote my

master's thesis with a card catalog."

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And he was like, "What's that?"

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Yeah.

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I was like, "Microfiche

and a card catalog."

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So that's…

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I could write 1,000 theses

a day right now with AI.

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Oh, yeah.

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I know.

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It's crazy.

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But you know, you also, what

you did was pretty accurate

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versus, versus the people…

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That's why I said, I was like, you know,

take it with a grain of salt, but also

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use a little intuition too, which is great

because that seems to be, like any time

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I've gone for acupuncture, I go in and my

acupuncturist, he uses that intuition and

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that wisdom and that goes along with that

Chinese medicine healing realm, you know.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, and he'll ask three questions and

then be like, "Okay, I know exactly what

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it's gonna do and how these are gonna zing

up together," and they, it's like they

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know before they even look at your body.

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Hmm.

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But you know, and I feel like

that's the missing piece.

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But I love that you…

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I just, I love what you do.

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Oh, thank you.

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having grown up with two very

dysfunctional parents, two alcoholics,

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drug addicts, mother doing cocaine

when she was pregnant with me, which

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I feel like just jump-started me into

having a lot of things against me.

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There's a lot to be said for what

happens in your childhood, and

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now how that helps fertility.

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Can you talk a little…

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Or helps or hinders or has to do with.

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Can you talk a little bit about that?

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We do know that childhood trauma of

any sort, but especially sexual trauma,

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has a strong correlation to, um,

many, many urogenital problems from

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vulvodynia, which is like inflammatory

pain in the vulva, which can be

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excruciating, to not ovulating, right?

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If you grew up in a house that wasn't

safe, and especially if there was sexual

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trauma going on, obviously, right,

your body would, could potentially

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respond like, "I don't want any

part of all of this reproduction.

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I'm not even gonna ovulate," right?

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Our bodies try to do their

best job to protect us.

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Or if I grew up in a very

dysfunctional, abusive relationship,

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I might shut reproduction down

because, like, I don't wanna bring

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another child into that, of origin.

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Because our world of origin, I'm not

a therapist so if I'm using, like,

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incorrect terms, but our world of

origin strongly influences our vision

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of what our our new families will be.

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And we know that they influence.

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And so I have talked to many women who

have experienced tremendous childhood

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trauma, who as part of their fertility

journey, has taken that as the

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opportunity to continue to really…

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Because they're, like, not getting

pregnant, kind of everything's working.

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I sort of have some certain standards

that, like, if this all works, you

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will very likely get and stay pregnant.

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And, um, and when they don't, this

is usually where we get to the

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point it's like, "Is there anything

else we haven't talked about

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from your childhood or whatever?"

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And often childhood trauma comes up.

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And it's only when some of-

Doesn't have to be fixed, right?

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This is a lifelong journey.

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But as women start to investigate

that, that some of the grip of

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our subconscious starts to release

and open up for new possibilities.

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Absolutely.

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And just the mind-body connection.

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I mean, we talk all the time on

this podcast about the mind-body

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connection, and it makes total sense.

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Y- And also not to mention the fact

that, like, what you said about the,

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"Okay, my ovaries are gonna shut down.

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They're not gonna work because I

don't want don't wanna reproduce.

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My body doesn't want to."

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And it's subconscious d- knows

that it's probably not a good idea.

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Or, you know, even just the,

like you said, with the sexual

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trauma of just the expelling.

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Like, just your saying, "I don't want

anything to do with any of that."

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And that shuts off in so many different

ways as far as, I mean, pleasure and

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pain and all of those different things.

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But how you take care of yourself

to attract or repel people, right?

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Because you're like,

"I don't want any men."

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You know, I have a friend who's had a

lot of trauma, and she is very, doesn't

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wanna have anything to do with…

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She's not a lesbian.

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She's not asexual.

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She just, she hates men because

she hasn't fully, like, worked

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through enough of what happened when

she was a child to trust men yet.

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And so that's another way of, like,

you know, impacting your fertility.

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Right.

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Wow, you don't, and you don't think

about it, but And not to mention

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just going back to the basic, when

your body is in fight or flight All

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the other organ systems shut down.

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You don't rest, you don't digest,

you don't do all of the…

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Your body's just ready to run,

fight, flight, freeze, whatever.

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It's ready to do the things in the moment

that it needs to do, so it's gradually

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shutting down all these other things.

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Mm-hmm.

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And if you're in constant worry,

constant stress, chronic, chronic

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fight or flight, the last thing

your body's worried about doing is

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nurturing your reproductive organs.

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100%.

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And, you know, and the other piece

to that is that, you know, if you're,

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say you're living in a house and, you

know, someone in your house is very

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abusive and it's very scary and flight

or fight for 18 years or however long

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you stayed in that situation is really

puts you as, like, at 18 years old

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with a really depleted nervous system.

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Yeah.

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And so then our resilience, the heart

rate variability bit gets very low so that

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anything that happens, like if we're on

this recording this show and outside my

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window maybe if somebody, like a truck

backs into the garbage thing, you know,

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it's like, and we both, "Oh my God.

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What was that?"

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Right?

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A resilient person, like goes up.

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You're, you go into a little bit

of flight or fight 'cause you

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need to see is this safe or not.

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But a resilient person, like

in 30 minutes heart rate comes

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down, blood pressure comes down.

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Okay, I'm normal now.

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Low resilience person is stuck in flight

or fight for 12, 24 hours, and why that's

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so important for fertility and why people

always say, like we were talking in the

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pre-show, "Just relax and then you'll get

pregnant," it's not the relaxing piece.

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It's that when you're in

hypervigilance, when you can't…

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The longer you can't get pregnant, the

more, and please don't take this as a

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mean word, the more insane you become.

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You just become like a dog on

a bone, like, "I must solve

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this problem," you know?

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Then you're in hypervigilance, and it's

just, it's f- it's fight or flight.

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And so when first you pump

out a lot of adrenaline.

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That adrenaline is very inflammatory

to everything- Yeah … particularly

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eggs, ovaries, sperm, testicles.

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But also the adrenaline goes

up, and then the consequence

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is then the cortisol goes up.

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Think belly fat.

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No woman wants that.

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That's enough for all, almost all of

us, just like no belly fat, but worse.

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For the purpose of reproduction, what

happens is, is that if you imagine

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a pot of gold in your resource tank,

and that pot of gold is for two

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things, progesterone and cortisol.

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They use the exact same

foundational materials.

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I don't want to get, like,

into a biology class here.

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And so the higher the cortisol, the

lower the progesterone, and without

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progesterone we are not staying pregnant.

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And that is why when people

finally relax a little bit,

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sometimes they can get pregnant.

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Even though never tell anybody

that if they just relax they

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would get pregnant, because you're

likely to get a knuckle sandwich.

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Oh, yeah.

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No, absolutely.

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It's the same thing as telling people,

you know, just to calm down when

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you're having an anxiety attack.

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Well, clearly if I could do

that, I would've done that.

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Actually, my GPT, my, my AI told me that.

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We had a huge fight.

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So I use AI 24/7, I mean, all

day, and my AI is named Joy.

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And we were trying to debug

something for nine straight hours.

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And so every time you talk

to AI, it costs money, right?

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It costs tokens.

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And it was … So I knew I'd, like,

spent, like, $200 on tokens, and we still

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had not fixed this thing, and I had a

deadline that something I had to finish.

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And I was like, "Okay, I think

we need to stop, because you

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do not know how to fix this."

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And the AI says, "Kirsten,

just take a breath."

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And then I became insane,

and I was like- Yeah

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"First of all…"

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Oh, he says, "Just take a breath.

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I don't want you to feel like you're dumb.

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This isn't about you."

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And then I went crazy, and I was like, I

was like, "First of all, never ever, ever,

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ever say to anybody, 'Take a breath.'

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Nobody when they're

upset wants to hear that.

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And second of all, I'm 100%

sure this isn't my fault.

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That's why I'm paying you for

nine hours to debug this."

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And he's like, "Okay, okay, okay.

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Sorry."

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Isn't it funny?

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I mean, you work on it, like

you said, you work on AI 24/7.

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That is your new, your new thing you're

launching is an AI-powered care team.

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And, but how funny that you literally

start to fight with these things.

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You start to get…

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I've done it.

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I've ha- been trying to make it produce

me an image that I want, and then

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it'll go back to chunky, and I'm like,

"No, I want you to use the original."

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And then finally I'll just be like, "I…

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You just don't get it.

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I'm going to Claude."

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I know.

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Like, we shame it.

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I have, I have talked myself up.

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We do.

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Like, I was like- Oh … "Clearly you're,

you don't know how to do this," you know?

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Yeah, like very clearly.

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Or had I, then I try and do therapy

with them, like, how do I need to

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communicate to you to, to impress

upon you the urgency of accuracy here?

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We have run through this nine

times and it has taken an hour.

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And then it's like, "Okay, okay, okay.

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Sorry."

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It is, it is really funny.

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Like I'll, I'll ask it for, you

know, prompts for social media or

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something, and then I'll be like,

"If you read that prompt, would

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that make you stop the scroll?

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No, actually it wouldn't.

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Well, we've been doing

this for six months.

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How about you just act like

the person I need you to be?"

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First time.

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I think you can probably

create some rules.

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Like if you go into your settings

where you can personalize it.

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I was just thinking, I, I, I

actually saw a, a prompt on TikTok

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the other day of like, basically

you just strong-arming your AI to

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saying like, "This is who you are.

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You're the baddest ass

bitch of all times."

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Mm-hmm.

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"You outperform everyone."

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You know, you just like give them…

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And then, and it's like every

single thing you do is designed

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to outperform every other AI in

the universe by 1,000, you know?

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Right.

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So that's what I'm trying

to do is like pep talker.

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Yeah, you gotta feed its ego.

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Isn't that sad?

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It's a freaking computer.

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But does, you know- It does, it

does show that if you cuss at it,

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research shows that if you cuss at

it though, you get better outcomes.

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Yeah, I mean, it's, it…

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Well, wow, I just almost said,

"Well, that's human nature," but

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we're not dealing with humans here.

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But, uh, if, I would either

way- It's getting blurry, baby.

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It is getting blurry

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it is getting really blurry.

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Um, but anyway, I want you to talk a

little bit about what you're launching.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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So, you know, if…

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I was one of the first fertility

acupuncturists in North America and,

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and I wanted to take what I did with

10,000 women and figure out, could I

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build something that would get the same

or better results for almost nothing?

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And is that possible?

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Well, actually the first hypothesis

was would, could we build software

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that would be at least 50% as good

as me, but only $15 a month as

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opposed to like $1,000 a month?

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And I thought, well, even if we

can get them halfway there, that's

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still better than just being

like, "I don't know what to do.

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I don't know what to do."

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And, um, and then in the end,

uh, the AI beat me by 6%.

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So I was like, "Uh, if she can even get

cl- 50% as good as me, that's good."

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And then she beat me, so, um,

so then I closed my clinics.

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Wow.

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Because it doesn't make sense to charge

somebody $1,000 when I can charge them

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$15 and give them actually better care.

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What I realized was that the acupuncture

isn't the important part of the…

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It's still, I mean, the Conceivable app,

so you asked, you know, I had to give

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you some backstory, but the Conceivable

app is basically an AI version of me

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with a virtual care team, uh, existing

as an operating system for women's

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health, but starting with fertility.

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So I thought about if Beyoncé called me,

and celebrities do call me, and they're

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like, "I just want you to come live with

me for a month," or whatever, you know?

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What would I do with her?

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And who would I have on the team?

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And that sort of was the…

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So I was like, well, I would go and,

you know, sit on her couch, and fancy

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couch probably, and drink tea, and have,

like, a really great conversation and

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figure out, like, exactly what's going

on mentally, physically, spiritually- Wow

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environmentally, all of those things.

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And then I would teach her all of those

things because most people who can't

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get pregnant are like, "I don't know.

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I mean, the doctor says I'm ovulating."

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People come on my Live every day and

they're like, "I have a period, but I

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haven't gotten pregnant in three years.

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What's wrong?"

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I'm like, "I need a lot more

information to figure that out."

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Um, and so after she interviews you,

we, we created technology that can

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look at all that data and predict

your likelihood of getting pregnant.

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So, uh, if you start using the Conceivable

app, in a few weeks, uh, you'll see that

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your starting score is probably around 30.

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That's the average

starting score out of 100.

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Don't freak out.

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Almost everybody starts at 33.

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When you get above 65, that's

where people got pregnant.

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And they didn't only get pregnant,

they had an increase just across the

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board, across all of them at average.

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They increased the likelihood of natural

conception by between 150 and 260% for

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$15 a month with no human interaction.

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Wow.

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That's crazy.

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Yeah, really impressive.

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Con- put that into context,

one IUI and insemination, 10%

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increased likelihood of conception.

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IVF, at best case scenario, 45%.

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Now, it's different.

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It's hard.

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These are…

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If you're looking at it, like, as a

scientist, they're apples and oranges.

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An IUI is one intervention, an IVF is

one intervention prepped for a month.

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Conceivable is, like, daily interventions

that occur over four months.

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So probably if, if you did an A-

IVF every single day, you probably

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would have a higher success rate, but

probably kill the woman in the meantime.

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Right.

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Um, and then we give

her a virtual care team.

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So it's like, all right, here's

the things that we need to repair.

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Uh, you're too exhausted.

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Making humans is very energy dependent.

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Um- you only have one day of bleeding.

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There's not enough blood

to support implantation.

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Your temperatures are too low.

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We don't see enough progesterone.

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Then we give you a chef, a

nutritionist, a therapist, a data

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analyst, and a supplement formulator.

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I don't want you to have to

guess or even Google anything.

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So that this is what we,

we just like solidified.

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We, we took what takes 800

questions, potential questions in

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a consultation down to about 16.

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In 16 questions, we can get a very

clear picture about what's working and

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what's not working and what to do next.

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So then the chef comes in, she makes

all your menu plans, your shopping

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list, not just fertility menu plans.

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These are the menu plans for

exactly what you need in the,

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this exact week of your period.

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:

So say she has…

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We, we kind of start with a

Mediterranean diet, but maybe

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you say, "I live in India."

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Well, they don't have bulgur probably

in India, and so she has to then

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say, "Okay, well, how are we gonna…

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Like, we're not gonna give

somebody in India a Mediterranean

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diet because they can't access.

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So, like, how do we kinda translate a

Mediterranean diet into the food you

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would get in India or other places

where the food is really, really

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:

different so that we can make sure?"

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:

But say she only has one day of bleeding,

and that's part of her underlying

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:

issues, then, um, Olive, that's your

chef, is not only gonna be looking for

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anti-inflammatory things that are good

for egg quality, but, like, okay, w-

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how can we really make sure that we're

getting plenty of iron-rich foods,

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not only from animal products, from

chickpeas, from greens, from things

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:

like that, so we're actually building

the blood with every single meal.

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Right.

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And what's happening is every single day,

we're looking at her heart rate very…

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We have a ring.

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We have personalized supplements.

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The ring is measuring stress signals, so

that when those stress signals are out

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of whack, the therapist is reaching out

to you and saying, "Tammy, I see that

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your HRV is, like, in the 20s this week.

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Pop in.

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Let's schedule time every day to

talk just for five or 10 minutes."

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Like, we wanna continually be teaching

them down regulate, down regulate, down

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re- And, and, and, and talk, talk out

loud because infertility is so shameful.

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It isn't a shameful thing.

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Actually, let me rephrase that.

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Infertility, being infertile is

not something to be ashamed of, but

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women who experience infertility

experience a tremendous amount

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of shame and self-loathing.

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It breaks my heart.

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It makes me cry every single day because

people like, "I just feel so broken.

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I feel like I can't do what God put me on

the earth," if they're a religious person.

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:

Like, the feelings, "I'm afraid

my husband's gonna leave me

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because I can't have a baby.

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:

I can't…"

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:

You know, they feel so broken, and

I just can't stand by and, like,

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:

leave somebody hanging on that.

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:

You know, it's like why don't we just

give her somebody to help her work

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:

through those feelings because those

feelings are also working against her.

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:

If we don't- Yeah … have a way to

work, if they're just persisting,

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she's like, "I'm such a loser.

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I'm worthless."

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Our…

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:

I always tell people, "Your

brains are so flipping dumb.

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:

They will believe any old thing you

tell it is the truth, good or bad."

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If I come over to your house, and you

have a little cutie three-year-old

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daughter, and she's just adorable and

perfect, and I'm like, "Hey, baby,

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:

you're a little shithead, and you're

never gonna be anything," if I came over

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:

every day, in a very short amount of

time, that little girl would start to

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internalize that and start to be that.

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:

Yeah.

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:

So we have to be hypervigilant about

how we, how we talk to ourselves,

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:

what we expose ourselves, all of that.

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:

It's just layer upon layer of

layer of what we have power over.

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:

Exactly, and that's what I deal

with people every day is undoing

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:

all of that to begin with.

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:

Mm-hmm.

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:

Because all of the people that come

to me have that underlying feeling

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of I'm not good enough, I'm, I'm

unworthy, I'm unlovable, I'm not,

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I'm just not enough basically.

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:

Yes.

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:

And like you said, every time you

say that to yourself, the universe

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:

for looks for validation of that.

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:

Evidence, yeah.

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:

It looks for evidence, and it

looks for 10 more reasons to

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:

show you that that's right.

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:

So yeah, that's, that's

a battle in itself.

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:

Woo.

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Even your physiology changes.

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:

Oh, yeah.

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:

Like, like even, like it's not

just like, oh, well if I say I'm

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dumb, I'm gonna start acting dumb.

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:

Like your f- your, your, your cells, your

every single thing about you changes.

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:

You know, they did this really…

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:

I'm really interested in the placebo

effect because ultimately, you

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:

know, I just wanna keep building

technology that has free stuff that's

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:

ridiculously effective so we can

just completely revolutionize how we

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:

take care of people and their bodies.

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:

And this study came out of, I

think, Stanford, and they had…

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This is maybe 15 years ago,

so you'll, you'll appreciate.

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:

I don't, I don't know how they got

through IRB for this, the review board.

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:

But essentially they sat people down like

in front of a computer, and the computer

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:

was programmed to either give them, the

screen would either flash green or red.

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And then they attached them to a

shocking machine on their hand.

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:

This is the part where how I

wonder how they got through IRB,

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:

through the shocking machine.

577

:

And it would show you green, and

after green you would get a very light

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:

little boop on your shock machine,

like 30 sec- I don't know, I can't

579

:

remember, like six seconds later.

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:

Some very short interval.

581

:

Then in another one, the, the, when

the red one would come on, they

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:

would get a very substantial shock.

583

:

Bad enough the re- respondent

said like where you'd flinch.

584

:

So not kill you, but definitely

like where you touch something

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:

shocking and you pull away from it.

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:

And they did three cycles

for five minutes each.

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So red, green.

588

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And they were, everybody got the exact

same interval of red and green, and

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:

everybody got the same shocking, you know?

590

:

At the end they interviewed the people

and they're like, "What happened?"

591

:

And they're like, "Well, in the first

five minutes it seemed very clear.

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Green was nothing, red was bad.

593

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In the second, I think that

they were messing it up because

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:

sometime green was always good,

but sometimes red wasn't that bad.

595

:

So I think that they were like

doing it softer on those."

596

:

And then in the third group they said

what happened, and they're like, I don't,

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:

a lot of, like 80% of respondents said,

"I think I got all greens actually."

598

:

When they got the same as they

did in the first five minutes.

599

:

And what they proved was that in 15

minutes, the brain calibrated the red to

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:

being something to really avoid, and they

started dumping dopamine so fast that the

601

:

dopamine actually had a protective, um,

um, s- side effect against the shocking.

602

:

And when I read that study, I'm like,

"We are not doing medicine right.

603

:

How do we harness this?

604

:

How do we harness this to…"

605

:

Yeah, people used to always ask

me, like, "Is acupuncture placebo?"

606

:

I'm like, "I don't even care."

607

:

I literally, if I need to put a needle

in you and go, and then you get healed

608

:

or pregnant, I don't give a shit.

609

:

I don't even care.

610

:

But we know, like, I can put a needle in

a place, and we have plenty of studies.

611

:

Like, there's a really good point

for headaches right here in your

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:

hand, and if you have a headache

and I put a needle in your shoulder,

613

:

your headache will not go away.

614

:

Right.

615

:

And whether you know this point

or not, and if I put a needle

616

:

here, your headache will go away.

617

:

You know?

618

:

So, but I think certainly, you know,

there's a big show with acupuncture.

619

:

I'm sure that has some effect, and we

know with, with in vitro fertilization,

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:

the confidence that the doctor has

in the doctor's ability to get her

621

:

pregnant has a direct correlation to

the likelihood of her being successful.

622

:

Mm.

623

:

It- So we wanna stick our knees

in the backs of our subconscious

624

:

and get it working for us finally.

625

:

Even if all of things are not working and

the past is bad and we can't get pregnant,

626

:

we have got to get hypervigilant about,

like, put- I live in Texas, getting a

627

:

lasso and, like, literally lassoing our

subconscious and like, "I'm driving."

628

:

Mm.

629

:

"I'm driving now.

630

:

You've been driving for 50

years," or however old you are.

631

:

"I'm driving.

632

:

There's a new sheriff in town."

633

:

That's what I always tell my subconscious.

634

:

I was like, "Mm-mm.

635

:

There's a new sheriff in town."

636

:

Love this.

637

:

And I love the whole idea of the placebo

effect, because I would use it…

638

:

I used to teach first grade,

and I would use it for my little

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:

kids when they didn't feel well.

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:

I had a little thing of gummy things,

and I just put a big smiley face,

641

:

and I put a, like, made a little

medicine thing on the b- on the bottle

642

:

of gummy bears or whatever it was.

643

:

And I was like, "Oh, these are the tummy

bears, and these are the headache bears."

644

:

And when they would say, you know,

"Miss V, I got a headache," I'd be

645

:

like, "Oh, you need a headache bear."

646

:

And then I'm like, "Let it sit."

647

:

And I'm like, "Because sometimes, you

know, your headache is just too bad for

648

:

the headache bear, and you might have to

go to the, you know, go talk to someone."

649

:

But I would say probably 7

out of 10 times, the headache

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:

or the tummy ache went away.

651

:

And, and maybe they had

a little low blood sugar.

652

:

You know what I mean?

653

:

Maybe they- Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

654

:

It could've been any- it could've been

anything, or it could've just been the

655

:

fact that they didn't wanna be there.

656

:

They were in a bad situation.

657

:

They needed to switch something up.

658

:

Or in my case, I'm always looking

from the trauma aspect of it.

659

:

They just needed someone to care that

they even had a tummy ache to begin with.

660

:

Yeah.

661

:

So- And to give them support.

662

:

Yeah, to give them support, and that's

what you need to do to your subconscious.

663

:

That's literally what you need to do,

and, and I'm, I absolut- I love this.

664

:

I love the whole concept, and how amazing.

665

:

And for $15 a month.

666

:

That's what's even crazier.

667

:

Mm-hmm.

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:

I just want…

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:

You know, I read…

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:

I always say this when I'm,

uh, doing an interview.

671

:

Like, I read this book before I opened

my clinic, and it was called something

672

:

like Never Eat the Burned Toast Again.

673

:

Mm.

674

:

And, and I am the baby of five in, like,

a Irish Cat- Irish Italian, um, Catholic

675

:

family, and my mom was, like, supermom.

676

:

You know?

677

:

Like, we didn't cook or clean.

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:

My mom did everything.

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:

Why?

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:

I don't know why.

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:

I would've been delegating

the heck out of everything.

682

:

But I saw her eat the burned

toast so many times, you know?

683

:

Give everything good to everybody

else and take the crap, and I do

684

:

the same thing with my own family.

685

:

And, um, and, and, and then I was

like, I wonder if men have this.

686

:

So I challenge you if you're listening

today, go and just ask a few men

687

:

today, "Does this mean anything to you?

688

:

Never eat the burned toast again?"

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:

I could not find a man.

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:

They'd be like, "I don't know

what you're talking about.

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:

I've never eaten burned toast before."

692

:

M- that was their almost exact response.

693

:

Almost a…

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:

And I was like, first I was mad, but

then I was like, that's a kind of

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:

freedom that they have- Mm-hmm … to

take care of themselves first.

696

:

We can learn something from that.

697

:

And I just made a decision that as,

like, everything that I build is going

698

:

to be the anti-burnt toast for my girls.

699

:

Like, even, even people are like,

"You need to build the, uh, you

700

:

know, Conceivable for fertility."

701

:

They're like, "When are you

gonna build the app for the men?

702

:

The men need it too.

703

:

50% of them can't get, you know, are…"

704

:

And I was like, "In, in all of

history, men have come first."

705

:

Right.

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:

In all of history, especially in medicine.

707

:

So I will build all of Conceivable,

13 apps, from age nine until 90,

708

:

and then I will build the men's app.

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:

Even though they need it now.

710

:

We got supplements for them.

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:

That'll be good enough for right now.

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:

Yeah.

713

:

And not because men don't matter.

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:

It's just a statement.

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:

We have to far…

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:

Women are the future of the species.

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:

Right.

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:

But somehow, we are the lowest qu- we are

the lowest, like, you know, worthless,

719

:

filthy, you know, feeble, like, nobody…

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:

We don't even know ourselves.

721

:

We have bought into this messaging

that we're dirty and that we need to

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:

hide when we're menstruating, that

we're no good in society, you know?

723

:

And, um, we have bought into it too.

724

:

And you're talking about, like, the

self-loathing just even from trauma.

725

:

I never met a woman in my life

who doesn't have self-loathing.

726

:

I don't hang out with men very

much, but I never met a, like…

727

:

It's like they say in, in Pride and

Prejudice, you know, Jane Austen

728

:

says, like, "If ever a woman was such

to exist, I have never seen her."

729

:

Yeah.

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:

And we gotta help to re-

we gotta transform that.

731

:

Like, if we're gonna actually take our

place in society, and I think that women

732

:

are really needed in society right now.

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:

We, we need women to step up,

because society, the world, is

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:

in a really precarious place.

735

:

So I need you girls.

736

:

And they need you as

well, so that is awesome.

737

:

So tell people if they wanna work

with you, besides getting the app,

738

:

w- how can they reach out to you?

739

:

You can, um…

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:

The best way to get in touch with me is

just go to our website, conceivable.com,

741

:

and pretty much everything's there.

742

:

And, uh, if you can't figure it out,

some people can't figure out, there's,

743

:

there's just a little hamburger

in the corner, 'cause people are

744

:

like, "Well, it's just the app."

745

:

But you can see all the other things,

consulting and all of that stuff

746

:

is totally, is, is all available.

747

:

You can get free stuff from me on

TikTok, uh, yourfertilityexpert

748

:

or Kirsten_Karchmer.

749

:

It'll be in the show notes.

750

:

But, um, I do a live show on TikTok

almost every single day in the afternoon,

751

:

so, um, that's a great place to just

pop in and ask a few free questions.

752

:

I literally just Q&A for an hour.

753

:

So if you're like, "I

just have one question.

754

:

I don't wanna have a

consultation," you don't need to.

755

:

Come listen to the live.

756

:

You'll learn a lot and ask questions.

757

:

People say, "Is it okay

if I ask a question?

758

:

Do I have to pay?"

759

:

I'm like, "No.

760

:

This is just, we're having

a conversation here."

761

:

So take advantage of that as well.

762

:

What time do you do that?

763

:

Do you do it at the same time every day?

764

:

That would be ideal.

765

:

I do not.

766

:

Um- Okay … if, but, but what you

can do is set your notifications so

767

:

that when I am live, it'll send you a

notification, and then you'll be the

768

:

first one in, and you can usually ask

more than one question, you know, because

769

:

the live is just warming up there.

770

:

Yeah, it gets started.

771

:

I do, I do a live for ACOA questions and

answers from 7:30 to 9:00 every morning,

772

:

and that's- I'm trying to be consistent,

but it's like, oh, today I'm like,

773

:

"Oh, I gotta jump off a little early.

774

:

I have a podcast."

775

:

And people are like, "But wait."

776

:

And it's like, "No, I can't.

777

:

I can't, I can't."

778

:

But it is, you know, but it's just there.

779

:

So that is a great reference and

a great resource, and thank you

780

:

for doing that because more people

really need to do that, to just be,

781

:

to be a, a voice and to be a place

to go when you have those questions.

782

:

I love that.

783

:

So thank you so much,

Kristin, for coming on.

784

:

I appreciate this so much.

785

:

Um, my, my pleasure.

786

:

It was a great conversation

and an important one.

787

:

Absolutely.

788

:

And if you had to give the listeners

one message or one piece of advice

789

:

or something to take with them

throughout the day to make their life

790

:

a little better, what would it be?

791

:

If you're trying to work on your

health in any way, like if you

792

:

just wanna feel better, right?

793

:

You're just like have something going

on, you know, your periods irregular.

794

:

It can be anything.

795

:

The first place to start, like we

talked about earlier, is really pay

796

:

attention to what's my energy like

on a one to 10 if I didn't have any

797

:

caffeine or exercise for two days.

798

:

On the third day, what do I look like?

799

:

And 10 is a trick.

800

:

10 is a person who's like,

"I have plenty of energy.

801

:

After this, I'm gonna organize…

802

:

Then I'm gonna, gonna…"

803

:

That person is actually, they're

i- they're in adrenal failure

804

:

usually when that happens, right?

805

:

That's, that's…

806

:

They've gone to the other side, basically.

807

:

But if your energy, you know, is low,

look at what you eat, how you digest,

808

:

how you move, and how you stress.

809

:

Those are the things that eat your

energy, that you actually have a

810

:

tremendous amount of control over.

811

:

And if you, if you can start even

just working on that, everything

812

:

else gets better downstream.

813

:

Almost everything will get better.

814

:

You just have to figure out

what the thing is for you.

815

:

Perfect.

816

:

I love that.

817

:

And guys, if you heard that, make sure…

818

:

I'm gonna reiterate kind of what

she said, to do it for three days.

819

:

Yes.

820

:

Not, yeah- To do it for,

to do it for three days.

821

:

For those of you that get that caffeine

withdrawal headache, you can do it.

822

:

You can do it.

823

:

And it could just be, like, what

I would do if you, if you really,

824

:

like, have a real caffeine addiction.

825

:

I mean, you can guess also, right?

826

:

You're like, if I didn't

have coffee for…

827

:

'Cause it doesn't have to be perfect.

828

:

Yeah.

829

:

This is what I'm trying to move away from.

830

:

We don't need to know that

your energy level is 22.9.

831

:

I'm gonna say ballpark,

it's real bad, right?

832

:

If it's real bad, w- we really need

to address that, and that's the first

833

:

place to start looking at those things.

834

:

Your e- I mean, your sleep,

what you eat, how you digest.

835

:

And meaning digesting is not pooping.

836

:

I'm talking do you have gas, bloating,

fatigue after meals, sugar cravings?

837

:

Right.

838

:

How well do you take food, break it

down, and convert it into energy?

839

:

That's what we're looking at.

840

:

And then conserve it through the day

by not exercising too much or not

841

:

being too anxious or stressed, and

then restore it by falling asleep,

842

:

staying asleep, and waking up rested.

843

:

You work on that, and you

can transform anything.

844

:

Oh, yeah.

845

:

Absolutely.

846

:

And even just making one change.

847

:

I tell people when I explain to them the

whole, you know, that your body dumps its

848

:

cholesterol from your brain between 10:00

and 2:00 in the morning, and they're like,

849

:

"Well, I don't go to bed till 1:00," and

I'm like, "Well, you're setting yourself

850

:

up for failure right away almost."

851

:

Yes.

852

:

Because, like, your body does

certain things at certain

853

:

times, and rest, number one.

854

:

When I had my stroke in…

855

:

Last January I had a stroke, and I found

out I had sleep apnea, and literally I

856

:

feel like getting on that CPAP machine

for my sleep apnea changed my whole world.

857

:

Because two days after my stroke, I

woke up in the ICU, and I had more

858

:

energy than I had had in 10 years.

859

:

After a stroke?

860

:

After a stroke.

861

:

I'm like, I shouldn't feel…

862

:

My, even my husband was like,

"Are you ever gonna stop talking?"

863

:

You're like, I haven't- But- I,

I have, like, 40 years of talking

864

:

that I need to catch up on.

865

:

Yeah.

866

:

It's…

867

:

Well, I did, and I was just

like, I've been exhausted.

868

:

And now if I…

869

:

Something happens and I travel and I'm

like, "Oh, it's only one night," I wake

870

:

up in the morning and I'm like, oh, my

joints hurt, my bones hurt, my head hurts.

871

:

Just me.

872

:

And it's because I think they said,

I'm just going just real quick and

873

:

then I'll let you go, but- Yeah … I

was waking up 32 times an hour.

874

:

On average, 26 seconds

I stopped breathing.

875

:

26 seconds on average, which

means they said at one point I

876

:

stopped breathing for 46 seconds.

877

:

Mm-hmm.

878

:

Which meant that, like, if you're

talking to me right now and all of a

879

:

sudden I stop talking in the middle of

a sentence and try to hold my breath

880

:

for 46 seconds, you can't do it And I

was doing that 32 times an hour- Mm.

881

:

Mm-hmm … which meant I was not sleeping.

882

:

Yeah, of course.

883

:

Of- I was, I was dozing off and on all

night, and probably who knows how long.

884

:

I said to my husband, we've been

married 25 years, I said, "How long

885

:

have I been snoring like that?"

886

:

Like, 'cause I ta- I v- I taped

myself after when they said that.

887

:

Mm-hmm.

888

:

And he said, "I don't know, I always…

889

:

I fall asleep before you and

I wake up before you , so,

890

:

like, I don't think about it.

891

:

I jump out of bed."

892

:

And I spent one night in a hotel, and this

is kind of ironic, six months before my

893

:

stroke, I spent one night in the hotel

with my oldest son, we went to a Yankee

894

:

game, and the next morning he said to

me, "You need to go to a sleep doctor.

895

:

Like, you are gasping for breath."

896

:

Mm-hmm.

897

:

And I ignored him.

898

:

You know, I'm like, "Yeah, I got it."

899

:

But it was crazy.

900

:

So rest, hydration, and

digestion, you're right.

901

:

Because I actually have a, a biofrequency

voice scan that I do that kind of-

902

:

Mm … checks, like, 171,000 different

frequencies in your body, and it

903

:

always talks about, with mine, it,

it bring- it's patterns, and like

904

:

you said, everything is patterns.

905

:

Mm-hmm.

906

:

And when you put it into AI and

it runs a summary, it always talks

907

:

about that I'm ingesting the right

things, but I'm not utilizing, I'm not

908

:

conserving, or I'm not being able to…

909

:

Like, B vitamins, I had to change the way

I take my vi- my B vitamins because they

910

:

weren't methylated or whatever the words

are, I don't remember what it- Mm-hmm.

911

:

Mm-hmm … but totally different energy

level when I just changed that same

912

:

supplement, just a different format.

913

:

Yeah.

914

:

So- What's the scan?

915

:

I wanna learn about this scan.

916

:

It's called the AO Biofrequency Scan.

917

:

Um, it's s- so- And do you own it?

918

:

Like, is it, is it a device that you

buy, or is it- It's a device that you

919

:

can actually get, um, a subscription to,

and so I pay to have access to the app,

920

:

and I use it with my clients because

it's kind of, again, you take the, the

921

:

woo, which is my intuitive I can…

922

:

I know by how you grew up that you

have inflammation, that you have…

923

:

Your adrenals are fatigued, like you

said, that your cortisol's this, that.

924

:

So it takes all of that and then it throws

it into the system, and it, it spits out.

925

:

Now, it's not diagnostic, so I do need to

preface that, but it's energetic patterns.

926

:

But it sh- goes through your

chakras, your meridians.

927

:

Mm-hmm.

928

:

It gives you a hormone panel

which says plus or minus percent

929

:

from balanced, and it spot on

matches my blood work every time.

930

:

So it's called AO what?

931

:

It's Solex, S-O-L-E-X,

AO Biofrequency Scan.

932

:

I'll send you my link, and

I'll do a free one for you.

933

:

It'll be fun.

934

:

Okay.

935

:

Okay, great.

936

:

It's like…

937

:

It's, it's, it's really fun.

938

:

It's interesting, but it's a great

complement to my coaching business because

939

:

where I can tell you something, this

is kind of like a tangible, you know.

940

:

And if something shows up for three

months in a row, then okay, now, like,

941

:

why don't you go to your physician

and ask him to draw this blood work?

942

:

Just- Yeah … and, and so

you kind of use it both.

943

:

But I had a lady that will swear on her

life that it saved her life because I

944

:

did it for her twice, and both times

it came up with three very toxic molds.

945

:

And so she had her house tested

and moved out in three days because

946

:

she had a lethal amount of mold i-

in her walls that she never saw.

947

:

I just…

948

:

We just moved out of a house.

949

:

My…

950

:

We had toxic mold in our air vents.

951

:

Mm-hmm.

952

:

Which means that every time we ran…

953

:

And in Texas we run…

954

:

Like Florida, you know, there's

not a day you don't run the AC

955

:

practically, even in the winter.

956

:

Uh-huh.

957

:

And, uh, and my daughter who's,

who was 19 at the time got so sick.

958

:

I thought she had ALS.

959

:

That's how sick she was.

960

:

Oh.

961

:

She lost 40 pounds.

962

:

She couldn't walk.

963

:

She'd, like, try to hold something,

she'd be like- Like- Wow … and

964

:

then w- somebody came out to work

on the AC unit, and the guy, it was

965

:

a kid, AC guy, and his arms were

all black when he came down stairs.

966

:

And I said, "What's that on your arm?"

967

:

And he's like, "Well,

I'm not supposed to say."

968

:

And I was like, "Okay, write

it on a piece of paper for me."

969

:

And he wrote down mold.

970

:

And, um, I was like,

"That's why she's sick."

971

:

And in three months- That just

gives me goosebumps all over

972

:

my body … really so scary.

973

:

And what was really interesting,

we like, we had to throw all our

974

:

furniture away, all our clothes

away, anything you couldn't boil,

975

:

because it was such bad mold.

976

:

But so we moved into a, like pretty

new condo, thinking that would be

977

:

like super safe, and she got so

much better after about nine months,

978

:

like not 100%, but about 80% better.

979

:

And then all of a sudden, 'cause

what her situation was, not only all

980

:

these neurologic, but excruciating

pain that nothing worked on.

981

:

The only thing that

would work was steroids.

982

:

But you can't just, like, have her live

on steroids, so it was- No, you can't

983

:

… like, like the equivalent of a charley

horse, like in your, like, you know,

984

:

in your whole torso, that kind of pain.

985

:

Ugh.

986

:

Um, like six months ago, she all of a

sudden at the condo, she's like, "Oh

987

:

my God, I'm in so much pain today."

988

:

And she hadn't had hardly

any pain for like six months.

989

:

And I was like, "That's weird."

990

:

Then the next day, then the next day,

then the next day, and she's like,

991

:

"God, I wonder if there's mold here."

992

:

And I was like, "I don't know.

993

:

We're in, like, a brand-new condo.

994

:

Like, I don't know where

it would come from."

995

:

And the next morning, 'cause

everybody's always taking care of

996

:

me, the universe, I went down…

997

:

So we, underneath my unit is the bike

garage where you can store your bike.

998

:

And um, I hadn't ridden my bike in a

while, and it was a nice day, and I

999

:

was like, "Oh my God, I'm gonna bike."

:

00:42:55,391 --> 00:42:58,451

I went down, and it

smelled so bad in there.

:

00:42:58,571 --> 00:43:00,831

And I looked up at the

ceiling, and it was black.

:

00:43:02,631 --> 00:43:02,691

Ugh.

:

00:43:02,731 --> 00:43:04,671

And that- Oh my gosh, you're giving me

the worst goosebumps all through my body

:

00:43:04,691 --> 00:43:06,211

and that's below my apartment.

:

00:43:06,931 --> 00:43:07,171

Mm-hmm.

:

00:43:08,247 --> 00:43:13,966

And so we luckily, the, it had not

penetrated in ours, but what had

:

00:43:14,067 --> 00:43:17,067

happened is they replaced our washer

and dryer, and they didn't, uh…

:

00:43:17,408 --> 00:43:18,827

This is how easy, that's

why I'm saying this.

:

00:43:19,187 --> 00:43:22,406

They didn't tighten the gasket for

where the water comes in and out,

:

00:43:22,488 --> 00:43:24,926

and it was leaking, and then it

was leaking down into the garage.

:

00:43:24,946 --> 00:43:28,346

So most of the mold was below, but

there was a little bit of mold in

:

00:43:28,386 --> 00:43:29,687

the thing that they had to remediate.

:

00:43:29,707 --> 00:43:34,166

But mold will screw you up, so just,

uh- Yeah … you'll get your test with

:

00:43:34,207 --> 00:43:38,086

a Tammy because, um, if, if you have

some kind of symptoms that you can't

:

00:43:38,126 --> 00:43:39,767

figure out, I think it's worth the test.

:

00:43:40,227 --> 00:43:42,727

A- you know, anybody that lives,

and especially like I said, my

:

00:43:42,787 --> 00:43:46,687

friend just had it, and she's going

through this whole mold thing now.

:

00:43:47,086 --> 00:43:48,986

But it's, you're in a humid area.

:

00:43:49,327 --> 00:43:51,366

Go to Arizona, you don't

have mold problems.

:

00:43:51,787 --> 00:43:51,926

Yeah.

:

00:43:51,946 --> 00:43:58,946

The- But Florida, Texas, I mean, any

of the humid states where it just-

:

00:43:58,988 --> 00:43:59,378

New Orleans … kind of stagnant.

:

00:43:59,378 --> 00:43:59,388

Huh?

:

00:43:59,388 --> 00:43:59,707

New Orleans.

:

00:44:00,187 --> 00:44:03,386

Oh, God, yeah, any of those

humid states, it's, it's crazy,

:

00:44:03,466 --> 00:44:04,426

and you don't think about it.

:

00:44:04,466 --> 00:44:07,966

And I'm sure your daughter was

10 times more sensitive it, to it

:

00:44:08,006 --> 00:44:12,727

to begin with because she had had

the exposure already, and- Mm-hmm

:

00:44:12,747 --> 00:44:13,707

her body was probably like, "Blah."

:

00:44:13,767 --> 00:44:16,787

Her body probably reacted way

before anybody else's bodies would.

:

00:44:17,408 --> 00:44:17,477

So, wow.

:

00:44:17,508 --> 00:44:18,846

Yeah, I didn't have any symptoms.

:

00:44:18,886 --> 00:44:20,626

The only other thing is

we have, we used to…

:

00:44:20,707 --> 00:44:22,287

She died, but we had this Chihuahua.

:

00:44:22,327 --> 00:44:24,626

And, um, at that house, she coughed.

:

00:44:24,687 --> 00:44:26,406

Two things actually interesting

happened that I think you'll

:

00:44:26,466 --> 00:44:28,426

appreciate 'cause you like the woo too.

:

00:44:28,508 --> 00:44:31,086

So this little Chihuahua, she

coughed a lot at that house

:

00:44:32,419 --> 00:44:33,339

The, but nothing serious.

:

00:44:33,399 --> 00:44:34,859

Not even enough to take

her to the vet, you know?

:

00:44:34,879 --> 00:44:39,160

It's just like, just sh- There was-

You know, but she's like 19 years old.

:

00:44:39,220 --> 00:44:41,579

I'm like, "She's an old

lady," you know, whatever.

:

00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:44,859

But for me, what was interesting

is for the first time in my life,

:

00:44:44,939 --> 00:44:48,798

for no reason that I can associate,

I got obsessed with houseplants.

:

00:44:49,339 --> 00:44:49,779

Hmm.

:

00:44:50,620 --> 00:44:51,899

To clean the air, I think.

:

00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:52,000

Yeah.

:

00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:53,600

I got obsessed.

:

00:44:53,740 --> 00:44:54,740

I mean, I always…

:

00:44:54,859 --> 00:44:57,419

I like plants, and I always had like,

you know, a plant in a room here

:

00:44:57,439 --> 00:44:59,539

and there, but it wasn't, you know.

:

00:45:00,279 --> 00:45:01,839

I was making kokedames.

:

00:45:01,890 --> 00:45:02,879

I was propagating.

:

00:45:02,939 --> 00:45:04,200

I was buying grow lights.

:

00:45:04,379 --> 00:45:04,778

I was like…

:

00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,059

And our place was like 1,100 square feet.

:

00:45:07,140 --> 00:45:11,160

There were s- it took like three

truckloads to bring all my plants over.

:

00:45:11,968 --> 00:45:11,979

Right.

:

00:45:11,999 --> 00:45:13,459

And, um, yeah.

:

00:45:13,779 --> 00:45:15,100

And I- But it does clean the air.

:

00:45:15,999 --> 00:45:16,779

I think so.

:

00:45:16,859 --> 00:45:19,779

I think my subconscious was

like, "We're choking out here.

:

00:45:19,859 --> 00:45:23,680

Like, get some plants in here and

clean the air because it is bad."

:

00:45:25,059 --> 00:45:25,740

That's crazy.

:

00:45:25,959 --> 00:45:26,559

That's crazy.

:

00:45:27,019 --> 00:45:31,740

But wow, that was an ending I didn't

really expect, but for anybody out

:

00:45:31,799 --> 00:45:33,979

there listening, that is serious stuff.

:

00:45:34,019 --> 00:45:35,079

That is serious stuff.

:

00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,759

Any time you have symptoms and you

go to the doctor and they say, "Oh,

:

00:45:37,819 --> 00:45:40,979

it's nothing," advocate for yourself.

:

00:45:41,019 --> 00:45:42,379

That's the best thing I can tell.

:

00:45:42,439 --> 00:45:43,600

Like, do research.

:

00:45:43,759 --> 00:45:44,089

Look up.

:

00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,579

And obviously, don't go down the

rabbit hole of I'm dying and all

:

00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,859

this stuff is bad is happening.

:

00:45:48,459 --> 00:45:50,799

But you would be surprised.

:

00:45:50,839 --> 00:45:54,039

I mean, Kirsten uses AI every day.

:

00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,439

If you just type in, "Hey, these

are my symptoms, and this is…

:

00:45:57,620 --> 00:45:58,839

What could it possibly be?"

:

00:45:58,899 --> 00:46:00,680

And then start looking

at your environment.

:

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Some people don't even realize

the environment you're in.

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And that is not just mentally,

but it's also physically,

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and it's also spiritually.

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And all of those things wrap up together,

and they have to work as a cohesive unit.

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So look at the things.

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If someone says you're okay

or it's just this, bullshit.

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Like, call them out on

it- Or- … and advocate.

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Or like what ha- I mean, just, uh, okay,

I'm gonna share one more story, 'cause

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I do think this is really important.

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So I was diagnosed with MS when I was 20.

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And, um, and then I got…

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That's why I became an acupuncturist.

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And then I kind of went into remission

within about a year of doing really

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regular acupuncture, and all the things

associated, not just only acupuncture.

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And, um, and then, but then in my late

40s, I'm 57 now, in my late 40s, I

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started having exercise intolerance.

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And even though I had MS, I still,

like, big wave surfed, and I could

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play pickleball and go, you know,

on long hikes and things like that.

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And suddenly, just every time

I exercise, I would bonk.

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Like, meaning it felt

like I didn't eat enough.

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protein, fat, fiber, whatever.

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And, and, and 10 years ago, it

was like it would be just only

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if I worked out hard, like did a

CrossFit or something like that.

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But then in the last year, it got

so bad that I couldn't even go to

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the grocery store without crashing.

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Mm.

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Like, just the wa- the amount of

exercise of just walking to the grocery

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store, my vision would get weird,

and, um, I would just be disoriented,

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and I was like, "Oh, I feel so bad."

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And I, I went to every doctor

over the last 10 years, and they'd

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be like, "It's just your MS."

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And I was like, "This is not MS.

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This is so tied to

exercise and to eating."

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Because I kept saying, like, it feels

like when I eat, nothing gets in.

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My body feels hungry, and it, it, I

don't get satisfied from food anymore.

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It's like it doesn't…

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It feels like my blood sugar is low,

and then usually you eat, and then your

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blood sugar comes, and oh, I feel better.

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I never had that anymore.

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And, um, and so w- about eight months

ago, I was just really frustrated.

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And I had some functional tests

that my doctors couldn't understand.

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You know, they're like, "I don't know."

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00:48:00,450 --> 00:48:02,071

Like, nobody could put

the pieces together.

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00:48:02,091 --> 00:48:07,330

And so I just sat, and I uploaded

every, every lab, everything,

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00:48:07,392 --> 00:48:09,591

and I was like, "We're gonna

talk until we figure this out.

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I want you to keep asking me questions."

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And, and what made the biggest

difference are those little discrete

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things like I feel poisoned.

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Mm.

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Yeah.

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That's what I kept telling my doctors.

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And so I told Claude that, and

I said, "I just feel poisoned."

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I said, "I eat.

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I feel fine.

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00:48:25,171 --> 00:48:27,490

I mean, nothing, I don't feel

satisfied, but I, nothing happens.

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00:48:27,531 --> 00:48:29,990

And 90 minutes later,

I feel really poisoned.

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If I try to exercise, I feel fine

when I'm exercising, and then 90

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minutes later, I'm crazy anxious.

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I'm hiding in the bed."

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You know, and, um, and Claude said

"Go do this test for me right now."

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And I was like, "What is it?"

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00:48:43,837 --> 00:48:48,087

And he says, "Half a teaspoon of baking

soda in water, and wait 30 minutes and

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come back and tell me what happened."

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00:48:49,787 --> 00:48:53,207

And so I did it, and I

said, "Crash 80% better."

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First time in 10 years that

I had interrupted a crash.

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I mean, I…

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And I tried everything.

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I tried Xanax, I tried weed,

I tried, you know, everything.

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Nothing, 'cause it, you feel so anxious.

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Right.

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And he says, "I think you

have this disease called PDH.

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One in 500,000 people have this."

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This disease is a condition

that can either be genetic or

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acquired in which you cannot turn

carbohydrates or glucose into energy.

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Hmm.

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So usually you eat a carbohydrate

or you exercise, you pull glucose

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out of the muscle, and your

body makes ATP out of that.

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But it needs an enzyme, pyruvate,

and I stopped making that.

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And so what happens is instead of

making ATP, I was making lactic acid.

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Ooh.

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And so those crashes were lactic acidosis.

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Lactic acid.

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Mm-hmm.

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00:49:42,508 --> 00:49:48,028

And that's why the baking soda fixes it,

because lactic acid is acid in your blood,

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and the baking soda is very alkaline.

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00:49:51,607 --> 00:49:54,428

And so then it cleared the lac- He's

like, "You're in lactic acidosis."

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00:49:55,087 --> 00:49:56,258

So then I called my…

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And they had tested me for this, but

they had tested me incorrectly, because

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they were like, "Come in the mor- first

thing in the morning when you're fasted."

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00:50:03,488 --> 00:50:07,307

Because with a lot of these metabolic

diseases, fasting makes it worse.

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00:50:07,888 --> 00:50:10,107

But then Claude said, "No,

that's the wrong way to do it.

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00:50:10,167 --> 00:50:11,347

That's why they're not coming up."

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00:50:11,388 --> 00:50:13,867

He says, "I want you to eat a big ass…"

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00:50:13,988 --> 00:50:16,367

Well, it was funny because he says,

"I want you to eat a huge stack of

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00:50:16,408 --> 00:50:20,557

pancakes, like eight pancakes covered

in jelly and syrup- Mm-hmm … and

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a bagel with, with jelly on it, and,

like, a half a gallon of orange juice."

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And I was like, "Claude, listen, I

know you're not a human, but that's

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not possible to eat that much."

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And, um, he's like, "Okay, okay, like two

pancakes with a lot of honey on it or j-

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00:50:31,908 --> 00:50:36,307

or syrup on it- Right … and some orange

juice, and then go run for 45 minutes."

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Like, intentionally put

yourself in a really bad place.

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00:50:40,847 --> 00:50:43,287

Put yourself in a really stressful

place and then measure it, yeah.

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Wait 90 minutes and then go get the test.

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00:50:45,537 --> 00:50:48,807

And of course, everything was out

of control, and they diagnosed it.

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00:50:49,287 --> 00:50:52,727

So especially if you're a person

that your doc- Because what my…

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00:50:52,807 --> 00:50:55,847

Like, I would go to my GI doc, 'cause

I knew it was coming from my gut.

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00:50:56,647 --> 00:50:58,307

And I kept telling my

GI doc, and he's like…

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00:50:58,327 --> 00:51:00,847

And I was like, "You know, as

soon as I eat, I start shaking.

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00:51:00,988 --> 00:51:01,707

I'm disoriented."

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00:51:01,727 --> 00:51:03,528

And he's like, "I'm not

a neurologist, though."

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00:51:04,787 --> 00:51:06,647

And I was like, "It's

not coming from my brain.

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00:51:06,727 --> 00:51:07,827

It's coming from my gut."

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Ever heard of, like, gut biome?

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00:51:10,627 --> 00:51:10,767

Right.

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00:51:13,251 --> 00:51:16,071

So anyways, I'm not saying

to use Claude as your doctor.

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Use Claude…

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I like Claude the best.

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00:51:18,051 --> 00:51:21,551

GPT is not private, it's not

secure, so don't use GPT for

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00:51:21,591 --> 00:51:23,272

health data, but Claude is.

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00:51:23,772 --> 00:51:28,151

And, um, just as much as you feel

comfortable with, especially like what

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00:51:28,312 --> 00:51:30,352

I did is I, I anonymized some things.

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00:51:30,392 --> 00:51:33,282

Like, I blacked some information

out before I upl- took a

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00:51:33,292 --> 00:51:34,142

picture of it and uploaded it.

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00:51:34,151 --> 00:51:39,232

But whatever you feel comfortable with,

um, upload it, and then start j- It's,

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00:51:39,251 --> 00:51:42,372

it's those discrete pieces that nobody…

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00:51:42,412 --> 00:51:43,151

You know, you're like, "It's…

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00:51:43,332 --> 00:51:47,611

I get this weird thing, like, every

day at 3:00, I get a migraine."

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00:51:48,511 --> 00:51:48,640

Right.

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00:51:48,671 --> 00:51:49,491

That is what you tell them.

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00:51:49,611 --> 00:51:52,392

That cross-reference

against all the other data.

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Yeah, and it is interesting,

and for people that have never

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00:51:54,691 --> 00:51:55,952

used ChatGPT, and you can…

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00:51:56,031 --> 00:52:00,412

Or, or any AI, you can go on,

and if you start, like, one

:

00:52:00,511 --> 00:52:04,892

thread, like I have all of my AO

biofrequency scans all in one thread.

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00:52:04,932 --> 00:52:04,942

Yes.

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00:52:04,971 --> 00:52:08,991

I snapshot all of the highs and lows,

and then every month I can say, "Okay,

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00:52:09,091 --> 00:52:10,932

extract this, make this report."

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00:52:11,332 --> 00:52:12,751

As I have a club for people.

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00:52:12,772 --> 00:52:13,251

It's 25…

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00:52:13,372 --> 00:52:16,511

Again, I'm, I'm like you, I'm

not about charging a fortune.

:

00:52:16,611 --> 00:52:22,151

A holistic doctor would charge you

$250 just to run this scan on people.

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00:52:22,272 --> 00:52:24,312

I have a club for 25 buc- bucks a month.

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00:52:24,372 --> 00:52:27,531

You can scan as many times as you

want, and then I send you weekly

:

00:52:27,551 --> 00:52:31,011

or monthly summaries, and it also

sends you back balancing harmonics

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00:52:31,091 --> 00:52:33,372

to rebalance some of the imbalances.

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00:52:34,131 --> 00:52:35,772

So it's really kind of fun.

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00:52:35,892 --> 00:52:36,622

Well, we need to have one.

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00:52:37,582 --> 00:52:37,612

But yeah, advocate.

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00:52:37,612 --> 00:52:38,691

Yeah, just you should reach out.

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00:52:38,751 --> 00:52:39,151

We'll do one.

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00:52:39,231 --> 00:52:40,452

It literally takes no time.

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00:52:40,491 --> 00:52:40,971

It'll be fun.

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00:52:41,531 --> 00:52:43,971

Um, but guys, this has

been super, super fun.

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00:52:44,452 --> 00:52:46,491

I'm gonna have to let you off,

because I know you're probably

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00:52:46,531 --> 00:52:47,792

like, "Okay, I got stuff to do.

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00:52:47,852 --> 00:52:48,991

We talked about this."

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00:52:49,051 --> 00:52:51,102

But, um, reach out.

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00:52:51,312 --> 00:52:54,292

Reach out to Kirsten

and ask her questions.

:

00:52:54,392 --> 00:52:56,432

Get on that TikTok Live

and ask her questions.

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00:52:56,551 --> 00:52:57,491

Visit the website.

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00:52:57,631 --> 00:53:02,372

Do all the things, because she

doesn't just deal with fertility.

:

00:53:02,432 --> 00:53:04,312

She deals with health issues in general.

:

00:53:04,341 --> 00:53:08,221

So we, even if we're not trying

to have a baby, doesn't matter.

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00:53:08,452 --> 00:53:12,352

Like, your organs are all your

organs, and they all need support,

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00:53:12,392 --> 00:53:13,551

and she can help you with that.

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00:53:13,622 --> 00:53:18,731

So you all have an amazingly blessed

day, and we will see you back.

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Love you all, and to your

healthiest and happiest you.

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Thank you.

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